Electric Judgment

Yeah, you send other people out to do the fighting for you. A very smart idea but a very dirty trick.

Better to be a coward in the eyes of your peers than be dead

I think its very good idea to make other people fight for you. So long as it goes a long with your overall goal.

I like the satisfaction of victory that came because of my own skill, rather then someone else's. Which is why I tend to cut a lot of people breaks when I fight them. Because I want to beat them honestly. However Redack isn't after glory... at least I don't think, so it doesn't really matter who takes his opponents down, so long as it happens.

I think that the point of roleplaying in the SW universe is to make it realistic as possible - and in the SW universe, people did not have to give up anything for something else. None of these powers can be called "all-powerful" if they are all exactly as they were in the real SW universe. No matter what power you use, there is always a way to negate, evade or counter it. That's is all that is needed, really.

The Forgotten one makes a good point ^_^

And then there's the Spondoo which just completely pwn. No dogding or defending against a Spondoo. It's impossible.

Forgotten Jedi wrote:

I think that the point of roleplaying in the SW universe is to make it realistic as possible - and in the SW universe, people did not have to give up anything for something else. None of these powers can be called "all-powerful" if they are all exactly as they were in the real SW universe. No matter what power you use, there is always a way to negate, evade or counter it. That's is all that is needed, really.

That would be the ideal, but in reality there's a lot of difference between this forum and the real SW that I don't think could be overcome without imposing all sorts of stringent restrictions. The major one is how liberally we use Force powers around here; in the canon SW universe, the Jedi tended to use Force powers sparingly, because the Force powers would drain you of your powers much faster than they do around here. We like to use Force powers to make our fights cooler, and that's fine, but if we're going to allow pretty much limitless Force use we need to limit the amount of powers each person can have so that no one person becomes all-powerful based on Force powers alone.

I still think also that it is a stupid rule. If your character can learn powers fairly, he shouldn't be forced to give up another power. On other SW sites I've been to, all characters could learn every available Force power for his Force alignment, with no sacrifices to be made. Force power was used in a similar manner there, but lesser restrictions made everything more worthwhile.

Honestly, I much preferred it when there were fewer Force powers that we could learn. It was a lot simpler and IMO more fun. Some of these newer Force powers don't seem like a Force power at all (Force Slow? WTF? Sounds more like something off of Final Fantasy than Star Wars. Growth doesn't seem very realistic, either), and while I think that some of these powers can be useful and are definitely canon, others just make things more complicated and make training take longer. I personally think that extra powers such as EJ (except maybe not EJ specifically) should have some restrictions, such as that only Masters/Lords can learn them or they can't be learned on your own...or both. It might be better that way; there would actually be a benefit to reaching Master/Lord status.

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such as that only Masters/Lords can learn them or they can't be learned on your own...or both. It might be better that way; there would actually be a benefit to reaching Master/Lord status.

That is what the other sites did. Only Masters and Lords could learn extremely advanced powers, but EJ could be learned by veteran Jedi Knights too.

Yeah, I don't really think EJ should be a Master-only power because it's similar to Lightning, so most Jedi should be able to do it, but other Force powers should be.

Like Force Valor and extreme farsight and stuff like that.

Force Slow is an actual canon force power. All it does is slow down everything but the user.

I actually think Electric Judgment should be a master only power because of that fact that your using a power that is similar to a dark side power and thus borders on using the dark side. Kinda like vaapad.

The problem with that though is say that you have a Jedi Knight who goes towards the dark side...by just stating that technically, that Knight could learn that power and use it.

.:Mike:. wrote:

Force Slow is an actual canon force power. All it does is slow down everything but the user.

Honestly, I don't really consider video games to be actual canon. There are way too many contradictions with the movies/books for me to consider them anything but entertainment. And like I said, Force Slow always seemed like a rip-off from Final Fantasy. But the video games are accepted around here, so I have to accept powers like that, even if I don't have to like it.

I accept the story in video games... But I tend to ignore some of the force powers in them...

Redack wrote:

I accept the story in video games... But I tend to ignore some of the force powers in them...

If they aren't canon, I don't have a problem with that.

All force powers in games are canon because George Lucas, the SW God, looks at every game before it's published and released. The Force Unleashed, although short and repetitive, had alot of ideas that we never though about. Force push not actually being a push but more of a punch. Force grip being able to grip anything in sight. Force Lightning actually acting like electricity.

He doesn't tend to look at them very closely, though, because there are plot inconsistencies with the movies/books. I believe they are a little more liberal in their allowances for Force powers in the video games because they want to make it more fun, but in movies/books they want it to seem more realistic. It's a moot point anyways, though, since the Force powers in the games are useable here, whether I like it or not.

I don't like some powers either, but we have to live with it.

I found the Thought Bomb power to be a little outrageous, even though it is canon. Then comes Force Orb of Destruction.

Meh some Force Powers are uber, deal with it... The more rules you add, the less fun the RP will be... Only add restrictions and rules when there is a need to do so, such as after someone does something everyone else considers unfair or whatever...

As for games, there is a very good reason for thsoe things... Graphics bugs (the lightning out of the chest), balance purposes (how boring would it be if you could just wipe out every enemy within seconds, or the other way around)... The powers from the games should be allowed as long as they are used fairly